joining us on the programme tonight is Aam Aadmi, party member of Parliament in Gujarat in charge. Raghav Chadda are Chadda Thanks very much for joining us. How was the day? While the day was very well for us, it has been we have. We have lot of excitement in huge numbers flocking to our polling station and booths and tables that we had set outside the polling centres. Number to the actually put up more polling tables and booths than the BJP and number three. Our assessment needy is that the traditional BJP voter, who usually steps out in huge now numbers to work for the BJP this time due to disenchantment and absence of hope in BJP's campaign, did not turn out in huge numbers. The maximum boat, the maximum people who stepped out toward who are essentially a vote for change, uh, vote for Parry Barton. And one thing that I, as as somebody who has been campaigning for the party in the state have noticed, and all my party colleagues, including our leader Mr Cage, we will have noticed across not just in Saraya in south Gujarat, which are considered to be strongholds of up, but even in north and central Gujarat is a palpable desire, a sense for Riverton and change. Drug of the Impala yearning, which that aam Aadmi party is concerned, would mean Congress doing disastrously. And the projection, of course, is that you do much better than them. That being what you are you counting on taking away a large chunk of the base of the Congress in the state, two things in my in our assessment. For every 10 voters that are voting for the Aam Aadmi party, six are old time BJP voters, roughly three our previous Congress voters and one is an undecided voter offensive. This is largely the complexion on the combination to therefore, for you know, any person to allege that we are only eating into the Congress is torture is entirely are incorrect. What is the accurate assessment is that a lot of people who believe in Arvind Kejriwal model of economic upliftment that gives you a life of dignity with electricity, access to quality, health care, access to education, sworn and so far, the voting for the Armani party as far as a larger question of the performance of Congress is concerned, let me tell you that the Congress, quite frankly, has essentially withdrawn from the Gujarat election. Barring for five seats where Congress is in a contest merely because they have a strong leader that has been practising electoral politics has been doing grassroot politics for decades. There is no other areas Gujarat Mon district on all at other pocket in Gujarat, while Congress is quite frankly, actually even in a contest and therefore it essentially brings us down to a proposition that perhaps Congress today has turned into NGO. It has been drawn from the business of fighting elections. It only does social work from time to time and carries out long about that because you're right. There is some criticism of the fact that the bar a judo Ya tras being pitched not to win elections and that's a separate storey. But on the aam Aadmi party itself, Raghav. Many of those who are reporting from Gujarat also believe that maybe the sort of over ambitious at this point that there is a clear favourite in Gujarat is very hard to beat Mr Modi on his own home. Tough so in a sense, is that now the fight for who comes second would you agree with that? It is just a fight for resident runnin up position. 2002 election in Gujarat, 2007 election, 2012 and 2017. Mention these elections may have been fought on Modi factor, but the 2020 to Gujarat election is being fought on the Kejriwal. Take it from me that is going to trump the BJP in the upcoming polls in these polls, the ones the fifth phase one as well as the face to number two there is, as I have said, if it was so convenient for the BJP. And if it is the BJP's home turf and BJP is all set to win and they're, you know, absolutely not perturbed with what the op is, the kind of ground that up is gaining in the state of Gujarat. Why would the prime minister require to sweat it out for 5 to 6 hours and carry out a long does? That is the face of the BJP, but he doesn't. He doesn't carry out with three kilometre knock roadshows. He didn't last a remember on the eve of the last election as well in 2017. Also, add a member. There were three days of massive roadshows by the prime minister there and everyone be is on the blast. Will. Actually, they did phenomenally well, calling this the largest rug out there, saying that 3.5 hours it's still going on. Apparently they pitched it as being the largest of that election ploy. Well, well, well, Vishnu. If the BJP is so scared of the Aam Aadmi party in the state of Gujarat, they refused to show up on panel discussions. Where there is an op representative in any channels, whether it's a national general, Gujarat, the attack only the Aam Aadmi party, they take down voting's of only the commodity party they abuse. Only Arvind Kejriwal physically assault only our leaders. They have quite frankly, got into an understanding with the Congress. But they attacked only the because they see not just as a long term threat but also as a potential short term immediate threat in the state of Gujarat. And I say this because in a very small span of eight months, I mean, if you were to refine by to march, that is when we started our campaign in Gujarat in a short span of eight months. We have built a huge moment that we have put up a spirited camp and we have build a robust organisation down to every village which can today compete and Perhach trapped the BJP's own organisation. But But Raghav last question. Just on that point about your campaign. Yes, it's been very robust and at least it's there. The Congress's campaign is not even there on the ground, but you're one of your weaknesses. Has been that you Didn't you all didn't do very well in the panchayat elections. So there is a sense that you're not that strong in rural Gujarat. You did make a, you know, a dent in in places like Surat, for example in the urban local body polls, which is why it's campaign so aggressively in Surat, etc. Have you been able, in your view, to bridge that gap? First of all, every election has a different flavour and every election is different. List would come back to Delhi. In Delhi, the Lok Sabha goes to the BJP. The vegan Saba overwhelmingly goes to Mr Kejriwal and the Aam Aadmi party with the highest ever mandate that independent India's elections number two. This is also a very pure I'll and and an incorrect way of looking at that is only a sherry party or a saved or a party that is concerned, which which has support only in cities and not in rural. Take it from me that this time ask performance in tribal areas asks percent performance in hard core rural areas is going to be far better than our own performance in cities. I am not saying cities is going to be going to win this. Be honest or are you going to be a strong second party is winning this election is sure I'm saying this at we are winning this election. We are We are trumping the BJP, the grass Vishnu of the BJP. Since March, BJP was at 48%. The graph of the BJP has been coming down like this out of that 0% in March has going up like this. This is the trend, and we have surpassed the BJP in boat share. Their election is an overwhelming, you know, a. And where we win these elections were, even if you don't. Either way, it is night. Few a may be proven to be correct as well. So let's see what happens. Election Vishnu, I can tell you, is going to change India's political landscape for short and aam Aadmi party in my view, in almost always and I It's the sense that I got on the ground north, just as some produce the Coen Changsha party in the state. But as a student of political science show we are winning the science just recorded that we recorded all thanks very much.
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