All right, let's a breaker open to our panel now joining a stars Doctor Ravindra Mehta is the chief of neurology in critical care at a polo hospitals in in bangle or thank you so much for your time. Good morning to you, Dr Behar. Tareq is with us. He's a paediatrician, Dr Director chairs and child care camps corner in Mumbai. And they also have Doctor Mandel with us consultant at the Apollo Hospitals that he begin with Dr Mehta, Dr. Mehta south. The case that you're hearing, as of this moment seem to be those who are vaccinated and not landing up in hospital. That's one. But the sheer rise in numbers As of this moment, if I can just come to that first, who, sure, rise deli in a weekly rise has gone four times. Mumbai has gone up financially as well. What is that telling us that is, this outbreak bagged by macron should be. Is this good to consider? As of this moment at the spread that is happening is led by macron. The whole thought process would be that it's either because of the new variant which have been seen in other parts of the world or it's the fact that Delta is coming back or that vaccination is winning out in some way or the other data worldwide would tell us this is my grand right now and understand that whatever numbers you see is just a very, very small tip of the iceberg. First of all, it will be tested only in the big Metro. Secondly, you're gonna be getting a result 7 to 10 days back. Certainly the way syncing other countries just exponentially goes up quite likely already in the midst of a omicron surge. And we just have to see where it takes under after match or the actual effects which will be remains in to deal with at this point. Alright. Already in mids off in ah, Macron, Serge says Dr Metadata para cure thoughts. Yesterday we had a warning of sorts come out by the show and they actually do not only the mom micron. They say Delta plus omicron will lead to a massive a search as well. In US. Readings are being taken on how macron is not the only one Delta also dominant factor there. I think in Mumbai, especially what we have seen over the last one week petting a majorities only grown, and I would blame it on the travel. People are coming in. People are travelling. Most of our patients who tested positive. Most of the Children are positive, and the entire family stone positive overnight because of the travel or exposure to people of just recently travelled. So you know the women around the testing of the genetics of the virus taste time show. I think large number the entire third waves of which were kind of heading into now is predominantly going to be, Oh, Mick, run. And we just to keep a fingers crossed that the symptoms stay minimum and we right through this way with higher immunity. The I see Doctor Mandel Is that what you sing in your patients as well, most of them with travel history. So it's not a community strategist yet difficult to say Agnes in women was you know, the sequence see, next time has has been already mentioned about other panellists. We really not over. Authorities from Iran are the a combination of time, but what is irrespective of our the basic Kobe, appropriate and easier should not be formed from the second muscle and we should not import riders or inflation from the foreign countries like with the second wave and have to have to keep our guts on dictum is, um, funds as well. I follow when you say that we do not import variants. Delta was first discovered here in India by away. But I'll come back to you. They They're a lot of cases which actually came from the the was to us, perhaps easier to contain. Few people coming from Connie, millions of people inside. Okay, we've got Professor and Doctor Devendra Kumar Singh also with us now from Sharp a hospital in Greater Noida. There, Dr Sing to take us to your experience of what you seeing in your hospital is of this moment people coming up. What sort of symptomatic treatment are you giving as of this moment? Basically, in last two can we are getting the station with the similar kind of the symptoms and and be lost toward the men's, the very similar to the you can say the acute respiratory syndrome which are to this. But we could not doctor diagnoses, Probably that maybe because of, you know that most of the laboratories the and Diagnostic Centre for tertiary care centres. They are using the the the projected results we are getting. We are not sure whether this is because of our due to this new various only crone which is causing a milder problem or because of the the scenario some under ignored special We have lost so basically on the basis of this two things and be on the basis of limited experience about the new variant, the the Dr Sing. These are vaccinated. You mentioned that you lost a patient also who could not be diagnosed in time. I am trying to understand from you vaccinated or not vaccinated. So there is a lot of data that this new variant as well as the previous parents, is spreading. But Mr Vaccine, his son, is not preventing the ineffective. So, in both these three patients, all three was you can save. One of them was vaccinated with the single does and another was vaccinated with. I see. Could you give us more details about this patient doctor fully vaccinated and from hearing correctly you lost that patient despite being fully vaccinated? Took over it? Yes. Any what? 18 versus patient. In what comb abilities? Dr. In one patient one was diabetes and another was having no calmer Biti's at all. And the station presented with the very source is 2 to 3 days. The the symptoms specialty star to have the favour, then shortness of the death. Then sessions was hospitalised and spot on the 20 later. And we have sent the sample for this Kobe, China. But it was fun to be negative. Letter on all the support was given but finally lost a patient and before not make the wow two ideas. Wanna take a pause of a urine CDs to everybody who's just been thinking of omicron as a less severe variant to everybody's been thinking am vaccinated am gonna go and party Nonetheless, I am not going to restrict myself at the end of the year. Listen in to what Dr Divina Kumar Singh. Go ahead, sir. Basically, I would like to say that I think told you that at this time we are not sure whether this positive result is due to this. The topic on new variant because of the relative variants and the delta vary it is quite Roland will have the ability to cause the severe problem. But this time, Mabley, or possibly the only grown as well as the I. I understand. But after seeing how many days wash this case, how many days back did you lose? This patient of one was, I think, three days back and the last week. Or write to Dr May 31 away in Yes. So I think the whole thing is we don't have an idea right now shown in we actually is. Most of the demise is we have all of us are the storeys double vaccinated. We know that there is vaccine failure to 5%. We know the vaccine stonework and all. We know that home abilities don't allow responses are the alarm was days across The alarm is that Oh, my grant is not benign. It is 40 to 50% Delta, which means it's 10 hours of 100 downs and 500 will still go down. Let's not forget that we are getting a field, say, feeling positive. Better than it is not a pan, Isha, it is not a guarantee. It is not something which we can right, Doctor, That message has to go out loud and clear. Mortalities will happen because vaccinations help us, but not all the way that everybody knows at this point from world Dr. Parry is everybody as much exposed or voodoo see as of this moment, people who got their vaccines right in the beginning? Healthcare workers, frontline workers, those above 60 with commodities, they continued to be the most vulnerable. Even against this, where indoor is everybody as susceptible? The moment non variant is extremely contagious. I would say 4 to 5 times contingents in the Delta. I mean the reliance of the wires. We don't know yet. Fingers crossed. So far, we have not had major casualties. Even in the Delta wave peak of the Delta, paediatric patients didn't suffer as much. So I would personally expect lesser affecting period affected periodic population. Indio, Mick run. But like doctor said ahead, it's a combination of their dynamic runs trying to pinpoint their okay, homey crown. Let me let down My guard is not that the engine ish. I think they should forget that and behave like it's the third wave. Forget the possibility of the variant being mitre and stick to our protocols of social distancing. But This is definitely more infectious. Morgan stages, and everybody is at risk of getting this new. Everybody is at risk. And Dr Paracas, I can also ask you the New Year brings in Sam Chia, which is for kids, at least at vaccination is going to begin for them. Have you started getting enquiries already? And what is your advice to parents who are now going to play fastest finger first, once more time, this time for they're teenagers? Yeah, so everyone's in a bit of a cheer, but what I keep telling them, the Kuwait per se in paediatrics has never been a deadly disease. So vaccines in adults were a norm. Everyone was rushing to get them because it was caused death in adults in Children. Even at the worst case, which was in the second wave at the peak of the second wave, we did not have that many mortalities and fatalities so technically now able to inject our Children against against the virus which has never caused death. So I would weigh the pros and cons. I would ask every parent to follow the ruble social recommendations, the brands given to them by the country brand suggested and the timing of the slot of the age groups. Please follow what your country and audio state is declared. Do not be in a rush. Do not ran. Supersede the line. Bypass the system. Don't go abroad, take different vaccines. Were going to do a great job with keeping in mind that safety is primary importance when we have any vaccine. Rajan all right, and also consulted Dr. Let's not forget that every child is different. Every child's condition is different. They're vaccination. Charts are different, so please do consult before you go ahead. But do get vaccinated, that's for sure. Thank you all for joining us this morning as we look at an interesting take away from this conversation is not just focus on omicron but not forget it. Delta hasn't gone anywhere either. So this combination of Delta Panasonic run that seems to be currently the reason behind the spread is what we have to really watch out for. Thank you all for your time.
